as possible. >> thank you both for now. i'll turn now to somebody who will know probably a few answers to these questions. attorney general eric holder is also caught in the cross-fire on this scandal, facing questions about what he knew and why he didn't inform the president and congress sooner. michael mukazy was a former attorney general and joins me now. welcome. >> good to see you again. before we go down this road i want to observe the day by thanking the people in the military, veterans and their families. >> very much so. >> who served this country and make discussions like this and debates like we have been having the last couple weeks possible. >> i totally endorse that. but what do you make of this scandal? because it seems to get more ridiculous in some ways and yet possibly more serious the more we hear about it. >> well, it has as you've pointed out elements of absurdity to it, elements that as we talked about before would be rejected if they were proffered as part of a forget hollywood, daytime television soa